# Is the JVC TM-13U any good? **URL:** \ **Category:** Video Games\ **Created:** [August 23, 2021, 10:18pm UTC](https://www.retrogameboards.com/t/is-the-jvc-tm-13u-any-good/2451 "2021-08-23T22:18:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Heyman980](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/www.retrogameboards.com/heyman980/32/19272_2.png) [@Heyman980](https://www.retrogameboards.com/u/Heyman980)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2021, 10:43pm UTC](https://www.retrogameboards.com/t/is-the-jvc-tm-13u-any-good/2451/101 "2021-09-01T22:43:03Z")
Also any good ways to test a CRT and calibrate it? ---
**Author:** ![dubc](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/www.retrogameboards.com/dubc/32/758_2.png) [@dubc](https://www.retrogameboards.com/u/dubc)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2021, 12:23am UTC](https://www.retrogameboards.com/t/is-the-jvc-tm-13u-any-good/2451/102 "2021-09-02T00:23:25Z")
For testing, the 240p test suite is the most common tool via gaming consoles. [http://junkerhq.net/xrgb/index.php/240p\_test\_suite](http://junkerhq.net/xrgb/index.php/240p_test_suite) Calibration is a different beast based on the set and issues that need to be resolved. Search online for the service manual for your model number. I’d also recommend reading through [RetroRGB.com](http://RetroRGB.com). It’s a great resource with a lot of useful information. [https://www.retrorgb.com/](https://www.retrorgb.com/) A lot of good info in the original post of the retro AV thread as well > [@Retro AV |OT| RGB, CRTs, Upscalers, and more](https://www.retrogameboards.com/t/retro-av-ot-rgb-crts-upscalers-and-more/157): > > Welcome to the Retro AV thread, here to help you get the best picture quality out of your retro consoles. Using a CRT? A framemeister to a modern LCD? Or maybe an OSSC? We’ll do our best to help you get the best image quality out of how ever you play your classic systems. Quick note I will be updating this OT in the coming days but I wanted to get something up quickly. I figured it would be good to start with a crash course on Analog video Signals. I plan on adding sections for Upscalers (fra… ---
**Author:** ![raskulous](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/www.retrogameboards.com/raskulous/32/11773_2.png) [@raskulous](https://www.retrogameboards.com/u/raskulous)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2021, 12:47am UTC](https://www.retrogameboards.com/t/is-the-jvc-tm-13u-any-good/2451/103 "2021-09-02T00:47:16Z")
> [@Heyman980](#): > > PS1, Sega Genesis, SNES, PC Engine, Neo Geo, NES, SMS, Saturn, N64 It might be best to look at what consoles support natively, and decide from there. There are very few consoles that support Component natively, as it wasn’t really a thing until the Xbox and GameCube. PS1: SCART Genesis: SCART SNES: SCART PC Engine: SCART Neo Geo AES: SCART NES: Neither (Can be modded for either SCART, Component or both) SMS: SCART Saturn: SCART N64: Neither (Can be modded for SCART) * * * Something to consider carefully though: if you’re wanting to go the SCART or Component route with all your consoles, be prepared to pay dearly for it. You need: 1. SCART Switch, or Component switch (or both). An Extron Crosspoint switch will do both, but you need to spend money on breakout cables to convert everything to BNC connections. 2. Mods for the consoles that need it, including installation costs if you cannot do the work yourself 3. Cables to go from each console to the switch, including BNC breakout cables for each if you go the Extron route 4. Cable(s) to go from the switch to the TV or converter 5. If you use SCART, you need a converter to change SCART into component. To set something up like this for say… 10 consoles, be prepared to spend probably $1000+. * * * My setup is 13 different consoles with an Extron Crosspoint Matrix switch, Shinybow SB-2840 to convert SCART to Component, mods for all consoles that need it for RGB, and SCART/BNC breakouts for everything that doesn’t have native component. Component is only used for a few of the later consoles. All told, I bet it cost about $1500 to get done, spread over several years of tinkering with it though. ---
**Author:** ![Peltz](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/www.retrogameboards.com/peltz/32/6142_2.png) [@Peltz](https://www.retrogameboards.com/u/Peltz)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2021, 12:51am UTC](https://www.retrogameboards.com/t/is-the-jvc-tm-13u-any-good/2451/104 "2021-09-02T00:51:08Z")
> [@raskulous](#): > > SNES: Neither (Moddable for SCART, or you can buy component cables that make it work without a mod) SNES (unless it’s an SNES Jr) supports SCART out of the box. No mods necessary. Also, with HD retro vision I think some of those now can basically be thought of as supporting component too. I know of Genesis and SNES specifically, but never looked into the others. Regardless, I don’t think it’s as available for the others as much as SCART is. ---
**Author:** ![raskulous](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/www.retrogameboards.com/raskulous/32/11773_2.png) [@raskulous](https://www.retrogameboards.com/u/raskulous)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2021, 12:52am UTC](https://www.retrogameboards.com/t/is-the-jvc-tm-13u-any-good/2451/105 "2021-09-02T00:52:23Z")
Ah you’re right, forgot about that thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Heyman980](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/www.retrogameboards.com/heyman980/32/19272_2.png) [@Heyman980](https://www.retrogameboards.com/u/Heyman980)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2021, 1:16am UTC](https://www.retrogameboards.com/t/is-the-jvc-tm-13u-any-good/2451/106 "2021-09-02T01:16:07Z")
Are there any alternative methods? I only have a PS1. ---
**Author:** ![Heyman980](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/www.retrogameboards.com/heyman980/32/19272_2.png) [@Heyman980](https://www.retrogameboards.com/u/Heyman980)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2021, 1:23am UTC](https://www.retrogameboards.com/t/is-the-jvc-tm-13u-any-good/2451/107 "2021-09-02T01:23:41Z")
What consoles do you have in addition to the ones in this list? ---
**Author:** ![raskulous](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/www.retrogameboards.com/raskulous/32/11773_2.png) [@raskulous](https://www.retrogameboards.com/u/raskulous)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2021, 1:30am UTC](https://www.retrogameboards.com/t/is-the-jvc-tm-13u-any-good/2451/108 "2021-09-02T01:30:13Z")
Hooked up to my Extron I have: NES - Component or SCART (Currently using Component) SMS - SCART TG16 - SCART Genesis - SCART SNES - SCART Saturn - SCART PS1 - SCART N64 - SCART Dreamcast - SCART PS2 - Component Gamecube - Component (not yet, actually. I have a spot for it, but haven’t bit the bullet on the component yet) Xbox - Component Wii - Component All the others are either older and use Composite or RF, or newer and use HDMI. ---
**Author:** ![raskulous](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/www.retrogameboards.com/raskulous/32/11773_2.png) [@raskulous](https://www.retrogameboards.com/u/raskulous)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2021, 1:32am UTC](https://www.retrogameboards.com/t/is-the-jvc-tm-13u-any-good/2451/109 "2021-09-02T01:32:16Z")
There is a PS1 version, but you need a way to get it on there. Either by burning a disc if your PS1 is modded, or by using an ODE (Optical drive emulator) ---
**Author:** ![Heyman980](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/www.retrogameboards.com/heyman980/32/19272_2.png) [@Heyman980](https://www.retrogameboards.com/u/Heyman980)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2021, 1:34am UTC](https://www.retrogameboards.com/t/is-the-jvc-tm-13u-any-good/2451/110 "2021-09-02T01:34:29Z")
My PS1 isn’t modded and it doesn’t have an ODE. It’s also a PSone, so that makes modding it more difficult as many of the mods don’t work on it. ---
**Author:** ![Heyman980](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/www.retrogameboards.com/heyman980/32/19272_2.png) [@Heyman980](https://www.retrogameboards.com/u/Heyman980)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2021, 1:36am UTC](https://www.retrogameboards.com/t/is-the-jvc-tm-13u-any-good/2451/111 "2021-09-02T01:36:46Z")
I’ve heard that 6th generation consoles look better on HD TVs. Would you agree? ---
**Author:** ![raskulous](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/www.retrogameboards.com/raskulous/32/11773_2.png) [@raskulous](https://www.retrogameboards.com/u/raskulous)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2021, 1:46am UTC](https://www.retrogameboards.com/t/is-the-jvc-tm-13u-any-good/2451/112 "2021-09-02T01:46:55Z")
Honestly not sure… I’ve never had them hooked up to anything HD. They probably would, to be honest… But I only really game on my CRT and PC. I rarely play games on the main 4K TV upstairs. ---
**Author:** ![Heyman980](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/www.retrogameboards.com/heyman980/32/19272_2.png) [@Heyman980](https://www.retrogameboards.com/u/Heyman980)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2021, 1:48am UTC](https://www.retrogameboards.com/t/is-the-jvc-tm-13u-any-good/2451/113 "2021-09-02T01:48:29Z")
Are there other methods besides the 240p test suite? ---
**Author:** ![raskulous](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/www.retrogameboards.com/raskulous/32/11773_2.png) [@raskulous](https://www.retrogameboards.com/u/raskulous)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2021, 1:50am UTC](https://www.retrogameboards.com/t/is-the-jvc-tm-13u-any-good/2451/114 "2021-09-02T01:50:39Z")
Yeah there are CRT calibration devices, but they aren’t cheap. You’d be better off to get a console that you plan on getting anyway (NES, SMS, Genesis, SNES etc) and getting an everdrive for it. ---
**Author:** ![Heyman980](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/www.retrogameboards.com/heyman980/32/19272_2.png) [@Heyman980](https://www.retrogameboards.com/u/Heyman980)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2021, 1:55am UTC](https://www.retrogameboards.com/t/is-the-jvc-tm-13u-any-good/2451/115 "2021-09-02T01:55:22Z")
I have used the PSone CD player screen to test geometry. Here’s a picture: ![external-content.duckduckgo.com](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/uploads/retrogameboards/original/3X/b/7/b7fd2db2dd625644c59de26d1f16c89747ed5743.jpeg) Do you think that this would work well? ---
**Author:** ![raskulous](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/www.retrogameboards.com/raskulous/32/11773_2.png) [@raskulous](https://www.retrogameboards.com/u/raskulous)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2021, 2:25am UTC](https://www.retrogameboards.com/t/is-the-jvc-tm-13u-any-good/2451/116 "2021-09-02T02:25:16Z")
Yeah that’s pretty decent actually, would get you started in the service menu at least. ---
**Author:** ![poptart](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/www.retrogameboards.com/poptart/32/41_2.png) [@poptart](https://www.retrogameboards.com/u/poptart)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2021, 3:32am UTC](https://www.retrogameboards.com/t/is-the-jvc-tm-13u-any-good/2451/117 "2021-09-02T03:32:31Z")
Most people might disagree but after running all 3 on HDTVs for a decade+ (I have legit component cables for all 3 including GC) I’ve come to the conclusion that they look best in 480i on a regular consumer level CRT TV. PS2 is native 480i in many ways – most games do not even generate any sort of progressive image, and those that do usually do so with compromises, so that’s an easy one to say run it on a CRT. Xbox and GameCube do generate 480p framebuffers before outputting 480i but most games are designed around CRT TVs, from things like UI being meant for 4:3, to art assets looking better with some fine detail left to imagination, to even considering the a 720x480 image as something intended to be band limited by low TVL consumer CRTs with nice softening filters giving an anti-aliasing-like result. I wrote out a [bit of a comparison last year](https://www.retrogameboards.com/t/retro-av-ot-rgb-crts-upscalers-and-more/157/1558) of a best case scenario of 480p CRT vs 480i CRT and meant to make a better argument but yeah take it for what it is. ---
**Author:** ![Heyman980](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/www.retrogameboards.com/heyman980/32/19272_2.png) [@Heyman980](https://www.retrogameboards.com/u/Heyman980)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2021, 4:19am UTC](https://www.retrogameboards.com/t/is-the-jvc-tm-13u-any-good/2451/118 "2021-09-02T04:19:51Z")
The seller of this TV that I am planning on buying had a PSone and was nice enough to send a video of the CD player screen. Here it is. **THIS LINK DOWNLOADS THE VIDEO SO DON’T CLICK IT IF YOU DON’T WANT TO DOWNLOAD IT**. [https://video-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t42.3356-2/10000000\_6004488639624378\_4086694344386113287\_n.mp4/video-1630436373.mp4?\_nc\_cat=105&ccb=1-5&\_nc\_sid=060d78&\_nc\_ohc=Rryat1v0Ef4AX-MjqLs&vabr=2332035&\_nc\_ht=video-sea1-1.xx&oh=c3bc95595e004967568ee7c77b6fe0b5&oe=6131404F&dl=1](https://video-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t42.3356-2/10000000_6004488639624378_4086694344386113287_n.mp4/video-1630436373.mp4?_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=060d78&_nc_ohc=Rryat1v0Ef4AX-MjqLs&vabr=2332035&_nc_ht=video-sea1-1.xx&oh=c3bc95595e004967568ee7c77b6fe0b5&oe=6131404F&dl=1) ---
**Author:** ![Bozo\_Cyborg](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/www.retrogameboards.com/bozo_cyborg/32/6122_2.png) [@Bozo\_Cyborg](https://www.retrogameboards.com/u/Bozo_Cyborg)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2021, 1:32pm UTC](https://www.retrogameboards.com/t/is-the-jvc-tm-13u-any-good/2451/119 "2021-09-02T13:32:39Z")
I have this exact screen in 24". That geometry looks fine for a flat tube. It looks like there could be some keystoning but that could be the camera. The only issue with mine is that it has a jittery picture with SNES and NES. That’s probably a capacitor issue, and not a widespread problem. It works great with other consoles like Wii and Genesis. I don’t mean to muddy the water too much but have you heard about/considered the MiSTer? I am using it now and I honestly haven’t turned on my Genesis or SNES in months. It is also how I got into PC Engine. Master System, and Neo Geo. If cost is an issue (it doesn’t seem to be a major one but hey $800-1000 in mods and cables is a lot of scratch!), the MiSTer could effectively replace 5-6 of your consoles. If you want to play your cart collection or are dedicated to OG hardware though then the top-tier answer is to do like @raskulous said and go for the mods and a SCART setup. ---
**Author:** ![Heyman980](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/www.retrogameboards.com/heyman980/32/19272_2.png) [@Heyman980](https://www.retrogameboards.com/u/Heyman980)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2021, 3:05pm UTC](https://www.retrogameboards.com/t/is-the-jvc-tm-13u-any-good/2451/120 "2021-09-02T15:05:18Z")
I would rather use original hardware. If I’m correct, keystoning is rather easy to fix. With my Trinitron, I can fix it in the service menu. [Previous page](https://www.retrogameboards.com/t/is-the-jvc-tm-13u-any-good/2451.md?page=5) [Next page](https://www.retrogameboards.com/t/is-the-jvc-tm-13u-any-good/2451.md?page=7)