# Retro AV |OT| RGB, CRTs, Upscalers, and more **URL:** \ **Category:** Video Games\ **Created:** [October 26, 2017, 11:43am UTC](https://www.retrogameboards.com/t/retro-av-ot-rgb-crts-upscalers-and-more/157 "2017-10-26T11:43:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 30
**Author:** ![Danexmurder](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/www.retrogameboards.com/danexmurder/32/3014_2.png) [@Danexmurder](https://www.retrogameboards.com/u/Danexmurder)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 2:39pm UTC](https://www.retrogameboards.com/t/retro-av-ot-rgb-crts-upscalers-and-more/157/584 "2018-04-16T14:39:22Z")
I just started looking into this myself for my Extron set up. I don’t actually NEED to run audio through my crosspoint but I want to try it out anyway. There’s a great thread over at the shmups form on exactly how to wire your own. Seems _really_ simple to do. In fact my audio cables to try this out with arrived last week. I’ll report back on how wiring these goes. [Phoenix Wiring](https://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=57768) ---
**Author:** ![Danexmurder](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/www.retrogameboards.com/danexmurder/32/3014_2.png) [@Danexmurder](https://www.retrogameboards.com/u/Danexmurder)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 2:41pm UTC](https://www.retrogameboards.com/t/retro-av-ot-rgb-crts-upscalers-and-more/157/585 "2018-04-16T14:41:26Z")
Awesome, thanks for the excellent info. My biggest concern there is added input lag. Do you know if anyone has tried one of these out for gaming? ---
**Author:** ![SAKY](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/www.retrogameboards.com/saky/32/385_2.png) [@SAKY](https://www.retrogameboards.com/u/SAKY)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 3:10pm UTC](https://www.retrogameboards.com/t/retro-av-ot-rgb-crts-upscalers-and-more/157/586 "2018-04-16T15:10:47Z")
FYI - I just got off the phone with a Regional Accounts Manager at Extron. They stated that they would be more than happy take a credit card order for any parts such as the Phoenix connectors and adapter cables. It would seem that one could simply reach out to them to obtain parts _and_ service for their products despite what I found was a belief to the contrary. ---
**Author:** ![Danexmurder](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/www.retrogameboards.com/danexmurder/32/3014_2.png) [@Danexmurder](https://www.retrogameboards.com/u/Danexmurder)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 3:12pm UTC](https://www.retrogameboards.com/t/retro-av-ot-rgb-crts-upscalers-and-more/157/587 "2018-04-16T15:12:27Z")
That’s great to know! Please let us know how doing business with them goes. Also curious how much the pre-made cables run. ---
**Author:** ![SAKY](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/www.retrogameboards.com/saky/32/385_2.png) [@SAKY](https://www.retrogameboards.com/u/SAKY)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 3:14pm UTC](https://www.retrogameboards.com/t/retro-av-ot-rgb-crts-upscalers-and-more/157/588 "2018-04-16T15:14:39Z")
Sadly I have already sourced the parts I need so that I can assemble my own so I will probably never find that out. ---
**Author:** ![Danexmurder](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/www.retrogameboards.com/danexmurder/32/3014_2.png) [@Danexmurder](https://www.retrogameboards.com/u/Danexmurder)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 3:16pm UTC](https://www.retrogameboards.com/t/retro-av-ot-rgb-crts-upscalers-and-more/157/589 "2018-04-16T15:16:10Z")
Ha! I’m in the exact same boat. My crosspoint actually came with phoenix connectors that _were_ wired. The wires had just been cut. I could actually just splice my standard RCA cables to the clipped ones. ---
**Author:** ![SAKY](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/www.retrogameboards.com/saky/32/385_2.png) [@SAKY](https://www.retrogameboards.com/u/SAKY)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 3:24pm UTC](https://www.retrogameboards.com/t/retro-av-ot-rgb-crts-upscalers-and-more/157/590 "2018-04-16T15:24:39Z")
I’m not sure what you are trying to do but I think you will want to remove the existing cabling from the Phoenix connectors and install new cabling rather than attempt spice to your adapter to the existing cabling but. I believe that it should be very easy to make your own RCA cables for these but I will post my findings when all of my parts arrive. I am going to be making what Extron calls a “CSR 6” cable. ---
**Author:** ![Danexmurder](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/www.retrogameboards.com/danexmurder/32/3014_2.png) [@Danexmurder](https://www.retrogameboards.com/u/Danexmurder)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 3:35pm UTC](https://www.retrogameboards.com/t/retro-av-ot-rgb-crts-upscalers-and-more/157/591 "2018-04-16T15:35:31Z")
Yep, I’m doing the exact same thing. I just meant that if I didn’t want to redo the wiring on the phoenix connectors themselves could simply splice my RCA cable into the cut RCA cable that is currently wired into the connectors. ---
**Author:** ![Kawika](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/www.retrogameboards.com/kawika/32/6118_2.png) [@Kawika](https://www.retrogameboards.com/u/Kawika)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 4:23pm UTC](https://www.retrogameboards.com/t/retro-av-ot-rgb-crts-upscalers-and-more/157/592 "2018-04-16T16:23:41Z")
Does anyone know if this component switch is any good? > **[Product Not Found | C2G](https://www.cablestogo.com/product/40697/6x2-component-video-stereo-audio-toslink-digital-audio-matrix-selector-switch)** > > Please navigate our site or use search to find the product you need. ---
**Author:** ![Peagles](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/www.retrogameboards.com/peagles/32/3067_2.png) [@Peagles](https://www.retrogameboards.com/u/Peagles)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 4:54pm UTC](https://www.retrogameboards.com/t/retro-av-ot-rgb-crts-upscalers-and-more/157/593 "2018-04-16T16:54:25Z")
Yes, I have one and it’s great! ---
**Author:** ![Kawika](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/www.retrogameboards.com/kawika/32/6118_2.png) [@Kawika](https://www.retrogameboards.com/u/Kawika)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 4:57pm UTC](https://www.retrogameboards.com/t/retro-av-ot-rgb-crts-upscalers-and-more/157/594 "2018-04-16T16:57:24Z")
I think @CouryC had an issue with his, i really don’t remember because it was referenced in a stream chat so I am not 100% sure what it was that he took issue with. I trust your opinion though. How long have you had it? ---
**Author:** ![Peagles](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/www.retrogameboards.com/peagles/32/3067_2.png) [@Peagles](https://www.retrogameboards.com/u/Peagles)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 5:02pm UTC](https://www.retrogameboards.com/t/retro-av-ot-rgb-crts-upscalers-and-more/157/595 "2018-04-16T17:02:22Z")
Only since January, but I’ve found it really great. Maybe Coury can comment on the issues he had and I can see if mine is the same. There might be things I haven’t noticed yet. I also haven’t used it a ton because the monitor I was using it with died, but I can test some stuff for you if need be. ---
**Author:** ![CouryC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/www.retrogameboards.com/couryc/32/639_2.png) [@CouryC](https://www.retrogameboards.com/u/CouryC)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 5:26pm UTC](https://www.retrogameboards.com/t/retro-av-ot-rgb-crts-upscalers-and-more/157/596 "2018-04-16T17:26:56Z")
Yeah, both Try and I have that one. I think its really good, and I still use it. The one I had issues with was the 3x5. I had a lot of video glitches, for lack of a better term. It was a noise on the screen when something was flashing - like if you pick up the kickable squares in Mario World. I stopped using the thing except for audio because of that. ---
**Author:** ![Kawika](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/www.retrogameboards.com/kawika/32/6118_2.png) [@Kawika](https://www.retrogameboards.com/u/Kawika)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 5:30pm UTC](https://www.retrogameboards.com/t/retro-av-ot-rgb-crts-upscalers-and-more/157/597 "2018-04-16T17:30:34Z")
I am on the fence here. I have a gscompswitch. It works fine but the issue I have with it, it only has one output. If I buy a new card for my PVM (BKM-129x) its about $200 and I will be able to feed the video output from my monitor to my OSSC. The only issue I have at that point is I would have to split the audio signal. I was thinking about getting those RCA 1 to 2 y adapters and just routing 1 stereo pair to my speakers and the other to my OSSC. Unless someone has a better way to split the stereo signal. Why on earth does Nintendo not put toslink audio output on anything? I wouldn’t even need to route the 2nd signal. ---
**Author:** ![Kawika](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/www.retrogameboards.com/kawika/32/6118_2.png) [@Kawika](https://www.retrogameboards.com/u/Kawika)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2018, 9:56pm UTC](https://www.retrogameboards.com/t/retro-av-ot-rgb-crts-upscalers-and-more/157/598 "2018-04-23T21:56:47Z")
> Fuck yes. What a great idea! ---
**Author:** ![Bozo\_Cyborg](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/www.retrogameboards.com/bozo_cyborg/32/6122_2.png) [@Bozo\_Cyborg](https://www.retrogameboards.com/u/Bozo_Cyborg)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2018, 5:53pm UTC](https://www.retrogameboards.com/t/retro-av-ot-rgb-crts-upscalers-and-more/157/599 "2018-05-04T17:53:48Z")
I had that and a similar S-video switch from them, both seemed to be very low quality, with noise and ghosting in the image. I’m surprised at the lack of good quality NTSC video switching options. Especially since component and S-video are pretty widespread here in the US either in vintage tech collector markets or in relatively modern devices. Shinybow seem to be the only major retailer for new high-quality switches on the commercial level. ---
**Author:** ![Peltz](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/www.retrogameboards.com/peltz/32/6142_2.png) [@Peltz](https://www.retrogameboards.com/u/Peltz)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2018, 5:57pm UTC](https://www.retrogameboards.com/t/retro-av-ot-rgb-crts-upscalers-and-more/157/600 "2018-05-04T17:57:39Z")
I have a monoprice Component Switch that works very well. The MLiG guys recommended it on their episode on switches and I am very happy with the build quality and image output. You might want to give that episode a look in general. But I mention the monoprice brand since their other switches may be worth a look. ---
**Author:** ![CyborgNumberBlue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/www.retrogameboards.com/cyborgnumberblue/32/27_2.png) [@CyborgNumberBlue](https://www.retrogameboards.com/u/CyborgNumberBlue)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2018, 6:48pm UTC](https://www.retrogameboards.com/t/retro-av-ot-rgb-crts-upscalers-and-more/157/601 "2018-05-04T18:48:16Z")
I found my old Pelican brand component switch I got from GameStop in around 2005-2006 for $100 (minus my then employee discount). Testing it out with my SNES and GEN 2 component cables and it does a great job. Very happy I found it! ---
**Author:** ![Bozo\_Cyborg](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/www.retrogameboards.com/bozo_cyborg/32/6122_2.png) [@Bozo\_Cyborg](https://www.retrogameboards.com/u/Bozo_Cyborg)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2018, 6:52pm UTC](https://www.retrogameboards.com/t/retro-av-ot-rgb-crts-upscalers-and-more/157/602 "2018-05-04T18:52:56Z")
Those are what I use, a System Selector Pro and HD System Selector. I’d recommend them to anyone. @Peltz I did see that MLiG video and I thought it looked great. I almost pulled the trigger on one of those Monoprice switches but I had read mixed reviews on Amazon so decided not to bother (I had already returned one component switch). I’m glad it works well for you though, it looked like a great value. ---
**Author:** ![Kawika](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/www.retrogameboards.com/kawika/32/6118_2.png) [@Kawika](https://www.retrogameboards.com/u/Kawika)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2018, 6:54pm UTC](https://www.retrogameboards.com/t/retro-av-ot-rgb-crts-upscalers-and-more/157/603 "2018-05-04T18:54:03Z")
I think I’m going to sell my gscompsw and get that switch I linked earlier in the thread. I’m a big fan of the dual output so audio issues won’t be a problem when going from the pvm to the ossc. I just need to make space for it. [Previous page](https://www.retrogameboards.com/t/retro-av-ot-rgb-crts-upscalers-and-more/157.md?page=29) [Next page](https://www.retrogameboards.com/t/retro-av-ot-rgb-crts-upscalers-and-more/157.md?page=31)