# Retro AV |OT| RGB, CRTs, Upscalers, and more **URL:** \ **Category:** Video Games\ **Created:** [October 26, 2017, 11:43am UTC](https://www.retrogameboards.com/t/retro-av-ot-rgb-crts-upscalers-and-more/157 "2017-10-26T11:43:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 64
**Author:** ![Listai](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/www.retrogameboards.com/listai/32/7564_2.png) [@Listai](https://www.retrogameboards.com/u/Listai)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2019, 12:01am UTC](https://www.retrogameboards.com/t/retro-av-ot-rgb-crts-upscalers-and-more/157/1265 "2019-08-05T00:01:31Z")
Can anyone recommend a reasonably priced and competent SCART switcher that is still available?, I’ve done a bit of research and most of the budget alternatives that aren’t complete garbage aren’t available anymore. I have six consoles connected via RGB five of which are CSYNC and the PS2 is sync on luma. ---
**Author:** ![Vespa](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/www.retrogameboards.com/vespa/32/405_2.png) [@Vespa](https://www.retrogameboards.com/u/Vespa)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2019, 1:00am UTC](https://www.retrogameboards.com/t/retro-av-ot-rgb-crts-upscalers-and-more/157/1266 "2019-08-05T01:00:42Z")
I heard these are [okay](https://otaku-games.com/index.php?_route_=misc/rgb/scart-switches). Not really budget compared to the bandridge people recommend but you don’t need to have to worry about modding it to sort out any issues it might have. ---
**Author:** ![Listai](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/www.retrogameboards.com/listai/32/7564_2.png) [@Listai](https://www.retrogameboards.com/u/Listai)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2019, 1:50am UTC](https://www.retrogameboards.com/t/retro-av-ot-rgb-crts-upscalers-and-more/157/1267 "2019-08-05T01:50:23Z")
Yeah, I was hoping for something cheaper but the more I look around the more it looks like this is the only reasonable option. The RCA out is handy as it means it will go right into my modded CRT without using the breakout box that I got with it. ---
**Author:** ![MrCrynox](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/www.retrogameboards.com/mrcrynox/32/9591_2.png) [@MrCrynox](https://www.retrogameboards.com/u/MrCrynox)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2019, 4:34am UTC](https://www.retrogameboards.com/t/retro-av-ot-rgb-crts-upscalers-and-more/157/1268 "2019-08-05T04:34:30Z")
How about this: Bandridge Premium Performance 3 Way Automatic SCART Selector Switching Box [https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0015YSKD4/ref=cm\_sw\_r\_cp\_apa\_i\_lf7rDbX568PFC](https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0015YSKD4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_lf7rDbX568PFC) ---
**Author:** ![Listai](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/www.retrogameboards.com/listai/32/7564_2.png) [@Listai](https://www.retrogameboards.com/u/Listai)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2019, 4:51am UTC](https://www.retrogameboards.com/t/retro-av-ot-rgb-crts-upscalers-and-more/157/1269 "2019-08-05T04:51:43Z")
That would work well but for the fact they won’t ship to Australia ☹ ---
**Author:** ![ShinJohnpv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e99b99/32.png) [@ShinJohnpv](https://www.retrogameboards.com/u/ShinJohnpv)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2019, 11:06am UTC](https://www.retrogameboards.com/t/retro-av-ot-rgb-crts-upscalers-and-more/157/1270 "2019-08-05T11:06:02Z")
Just to add to this, this is known as Anamorphic widescreen. A lot of Widescreen DVDs did this as well.The idea was to still work in the 480p space with out losing pixels to the black area above and below, since a widescreen hd resolution wasn’t established yet for the home market. There were some model Trinitron 4:3 crts that had an enhanced mode for 16:9 content. I don’t remember what it did off the top of my head, but it definitely made 16:9 movies look sharper on the tv than with it off. If I remember right, it focused all the scanlines into a 16:9 configuration on the tv, but I could be remembering what it did wrong. I had (well I still have it, its in my basement waiting for the day I can have it set up again) a 27inch Trinitron with this. ---
**Author:** ![Peltz](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/www.retrogameboards.com/peltz/32/6142_2.png) [@Peltz](https://www.retrogameboards.com/u/Peltz)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2019, 12:56pm UTC](https://www.retrogameboards.com/t/retro-av-ot-rgb-crts-upscalers-and-more/157/1271 "2019-08-05T12:56:53Z")
Right, thanks for the more precise lingo. To make my post more simple: anamorphic widescreen output that is forced into letterbox mode on a 4:3 CRT is higher res than straight letterbox. ---
**Author:** ![Jegriva](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ed655f/32.png) [@Jegriva](https://www.retrogameboards.com/u/Jegriva)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2019, 5:35pm UTC](https://www.retrogameboards.com/t/retro-av-ot-rgb-crts-upscalers-and-more/157/1272 "2019-08-05T17:35:06Z")
I use one of these. I can still find them in general store here in Italy under many brands. Not perfect, but very good for 15€. [image](https://binged.it/31h5Zo8) ---
**Author:** ![Peltz](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/www.retrogameboards.com/peltz/32/6142_2.png) [@Peltz](https://www.retrogameboards.com/u/Peltz)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2019, 1:27pm UTC](https://www.retrogameboards.com/t/retro-av-ot-rgb-crts-upscalers-and-more/157/1273 "2019-08-07T13:27:37Z")
I just bought an SNES 1-chip randomly on impulse. The shell just looked so pristine and I have always been curious about how big a difference it would make on my SNES games. It was 90 bucks… kind of steep. But lord knows I’ve spent more than that on GCN cables just for better IQ, so I feel like due to cosmetic condition, it was somewhat justified? ---
**Author:** ![ShinJohnpv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e99b99/32.png) [@ShinJohnpv](https://www.retrogameboards.com/u/ShinJohnpv)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2019, 1:38pm UTC](https://www.retrogameboards.com/t/retro-av-ot-rgb-crts-upscalers-and-more/157/1274 "2019-08-07T13:38:06Z")
When I went from my launch SNES, to an SNES Jr with an RGB restore mod it was definitely a noticeable difference in sharpness. ---
**Author:** ![Peltz](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/www.retrogameboards.com/peltz/32/6142_2.png) [@Peltz](https://www.retrogameboards.com/u/Peltz)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2019, 1:43pm UTC](https://www.retrogameboards.com/t/retro-av-ot-rgb-crts-upscalers-and-more/157/1275 "2019-08-07T13:43:12Z")
That’s what I figured. The iq of my SNES is soft, and I don’t mind it too much, but I kinda sorta do? Softness kind of has its appeal in some ways, but a crystal clear image is hard to compete with. ---
**Author:** ![Vespa](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/www.retrogameboards.com/vespa/32/405_2.png) [@Vespa](https://www.retrogameboards.com/u/Vespa)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2019, 4:32pm UTC](https://www.retrogameboards.com/t/retro-av-ot-rgb-crts-upscalers-and-more/157/1276 "2019-08-07T16:32:24Z")
Congrats on the 1-Chip! I agree with ShinJohnpv, it’s definitely a noticeable difference. ---
**Author:** ![dubc](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/www.retrogameboards.com/dubc/32/758_2.png) [@dubc](https://www.retrogameboards.com/u/dubc)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2019, 4:51pm UTC](https://www.retrogameboards.com/t/retro-av-ot-rgb-crts-upscalers-and-more/157/1277 "2019-08-07T16:51:46Z")
I noticed a difference with mine as well. Although I now have the horizontal banding(?) Basically on a dark background a lighter colored sprite will project a lighter stripe horizontally across the screen to the right of the sprite. It’s [like this (RetroRGB link)](https://www.retrorgb.com/snesverticalline.html) but horizontal instead of vertical. I haven’t looked into it too much, actually for this post is the most I’ve looked into it, lol. I usually use a SD2SNES so that’s interesting Bob mentions that. Whenever I get the chance to hook up my SNES again I’ll have to do some testing to compared against og carts. ---
**Author:** ![ShinJohnpv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e99b99/32.png) [@ShinJohnpv](https://www.retrogameboards.com/u/ShinJohnpv)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2019, 4:54pm UTC](https://www.retrogameboards.com/t/retro-av-ot-rgb-crts-upscalers-and-more/157/1278 "2019-08-07T16:54:28Z")
I think there is a simple small surface mount cap you can replace to fix that banding if you get it. ---
**Author:** ![apathetic](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/www.retrogameboards.com/apathetic/32/4119_2.png) [@apathetic](https://www.retrogameboards.com/u/apathetic)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2019, 5:00pm UTC](https://www.retrogameboards.com/t/retro-av-ot-rgb-crts-upscalers-and-more/157/1279 "2019-08-07T17:00:10Z")
I feel you can make an image softer with TV settings/choices but you aren’t going to be able to sharpen a picture more then the console itself is outputting, so it can be the best option to target the “cleanest” output you can then modify that to your liking. > [@dubc](#): > > I noticed a difference with mine as well. Although I now have the horizontal banding(?) Basically on a dark background a lighter colored sprite will project a lighter stripe horizontally across the screen to the right of the sprite. Talking about the “ghosting” effect? That is something else a SNES can have that is separate from the vertical white line. People have “fixed” that by replacing the c11 capacitor but that may raise problems in other games iirc. ---
**Author:** ![dubc](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/www.retrogameboards.com/dubc/32/758_2.png) [@dubc](https://www.retrogameboards.com/u/dubc)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2019, 6:24pm UTC](https://www.retrogameboards.com/t/retro-av-ot-rgb-crts-upscalers-and-more/157/1280 "2019-08-07T18:24:45Z")
@ShinJohnpv@apathetic Thanks! Yeah, I was thinking it might be a capacitor issue. It’s not very obvious, but I notice it on underground Mario levels. I moved recently and haven’t even played any of my consoles in about 6 weeks so I’m fine waiting a while longer before I decide if I want to do something. ---
**Author:** ![apathetic](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/www.retrogameboards.com/apathetic/32/4119_2.png) [@apathetic](https://www.retrogameboards.com/u/apathetic)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2019, 6:48pm UTC](https://www.retrogameboards.com/t/retro-av-ot-rgb-crts-upscalers-and-more/157/1281 "2019-08-07T18:48:51Z")
Interesting since I thought it was more of an issue with light background stuff, and that is how it presents on mine. Like say, Nimbus land in SMRPG or the first level in the Donut Plains are good places that I can always see it. ---
**Author:** ![Peltz](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/www.retrogameboards.com/peltz/32/6142_2.png) [@Peltz](https://www.retrogameboards.com/u/Peltz)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2019, 7:26pm UTC](https://www.retrogameboards.com/t/retro-av-ot-rgb-crts-upscalers-and-more/157/1282 "2019-08-07T19:26:13Z")
[![](https://cdn.retrorgb.com/images/s0mSNES_White_Line_Compare.jpg) ](https://cdn.retrorgb.com/images/s0mSNES_White_Line_Compare.jpg) The SNES I am replacing has the verticle line issue that is similar in severity to the middle image. But it’s very minor and not something that I can notice in anything other than black scenes/screens. The one on the left looks so much worse. Yikes. ---
**Author:** ![apathetic](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/www.retrogameboards.com/apathetic/32/4119_2.png) [@apathetic](https://www.retrogameboards.com/u/apathetic)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2019, 6:47pm UTC](https://www.retrogameboards.com/t/retro-av-ot-rgb-crts-upscalers-and-more/157/1283 "2019-08-09T18:47:20Z")
Anyone got an recommendations for a component switch? I don’t need the 8 in 2 out that the gcompsw offers and was hoping there would be a good lower priced solution that I would only ever use on the fv310 I just got. ---
**Author:** ![IrishNinja](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/www.retrogameboards.com/irishninja/32/685_2.png) [@IrishNinja](https://www.retrogameboards.com/u/IrishNinja)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2019, 4:46pm UTC](https://www.retrogameboards.com/t/retro-av-ot-rgb-crts-upscalers-and-more/157/1284 "2019-08-11T16:46:22Z")
ughhhh been refreshing since like 1030am over here, why don’t they come back in stock whyyyy > **[Neo Geo AES stereo RGB SCART TV lead](https://retro-access.com/collections/neo-geo/products/us-seller-neo-geo-aes-stereo-rgb-scart-tv-lead)** > > Tested and working on an XRGB Mini (requires SCART to XRGB Mini adaptor) a SCART to YUV transcoder on a CRT TV, a Coosis SCART to HDMI scaler and a GBS 8200 arcade board. Also tested on a PVM monitor using the SCART to BNC adaptors sold by... [Previous page](https://www.retrogameboards.com/t/retro-av-ot-rgb-crts-upscalers-and-more/157.md?page=63) [Next page](https://www.retrogameboards.com/t/retro-av-ot-rgb-crts-upscalers-and-more/157.md?page=65)