# Retro AV |OT| RGB, CRTs, Upscalers, and more

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**Category:** Video Games\
**Created:** [October 26, 2017, 11:43am UTC](https://www.retrogameboards.com/t/retro-av-ot-rgb-crts-upscalers-and-more/157 "2017-10-26T11:43:23Z")\
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**Post date:** [October 18, 2020, 4:04am UTC](https://www.retrogameboards.com/t/retro-av-ot-rgb-crts-upscalers-and-more/157/1558 "2020-10-18T04:04:32Z")

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I’ve been playing Tales of Symphonia in forced 480p on a VGA monitor, native 480p. I really like using this monitor for Ye Olde PC games, but for the first time I’ve really sat down and put some significant time into a 480p console on it.

And uh. I think my brain is broken.

I don’t like it. It’s _very_ pixelated. I normally don’t mind that but the aliasing is really harsh. And there are some effects in the game, specifically the simple depth-of-field that seems to duplicate-and-shift the image in the distance, seems not right.

I kept getting the feeling that it would look better in 480i on my 15khz consumer-tube security monitor. So I tried it, and I think it does.

Like what I’m saying is I think 480i, s-video, to a low-end lo-fi tube, looks better than those GC component cables delivering 480p to a native 480p display.

The aliasing is a LOT less noticeable, everything looks very smooth because uh there’s just less detail capable of being resolved. The DOF effect looks more natural, it looks more like a camera DOF as intended.

Am I nuts? Can anyone back me up on this.

I took some photos, they’re a bit different for… reasons (it’s really hard to photograph CRTs!) but just ignore the color, brightness, and minor scene differences as well as the _moire_ and tell me if you can see what I see:

480p VGA CRT:

 ![PA172588](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/uploads/retrogameboards/original/2X/6/655e1ebcdf3a5618d285574b2a0f888e2cecdb9a.jpeg)

480i low-fi tube:

 ![PA172617](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/uploads/retrogameboards/original/2X/a/a511b76b4df2054f387f95f93b158e18af32e5e4.jpeg)

Take a look at Lloyd… he’s obviously a bit blurry in sample #2 but he’s looking awfully jaggy in sample #1. It’s worse in motion, in this scene the stone pavers shimmer really badly in 480p but look mostly smooth in 480i.

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