MiSTer FPGA - OT

Are DE10 Nanos available anywhere for close to normal price yet?

I’ve been messing with the PSX core and it’s really great. Widescreen works well (on games it makes sense for). What a great device and scene.

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The price keeps going up on them. I’m not sure if they’ll ever really go down; speculation on my part.

I bought my first DE10-Nano for $140 in late ‘19 or early ‘20. I pre ordered one from digikey for $218 (neither price includes tax & shipping, ‘out the door’ for this one was $248). You can order them directly from Terasic for $210, but they were charging $46 for shipping (US west coast) so I paid $8 more with digikey but ended up at a lower overall price when S&H was considered.

That’s pretty reasonable all things considered! I bought two in 2019 at $130 and $140 and saw some ridiculous ebay prices recently. I have a friend looking, I’ll have them keep their eyes on Digikey. Thanks @dubc !

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Yeah, I hear prices for things will still be bonkers in 2023. I wish I had picked up a second de10nano earlier. I still should grab one now before they rise in price again lol

Really happy with this case for my MiSTer. MistressITX board fits well in here.

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That looks great!

After almost two years I finally got a case. I wanted a Mister Addons Al one, but they’re always out of stock so I went with an acrylic one from Mister FPGA UK.

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Really thinking about getting one of these for my main room now that I have a big OLED. So the prices are going up? I would likely be getting a pre built one from mister add-ins.

seems like the de-10 nano is sold out pretty much everywhere

MiSTer update!

I’ve been using my MiSTer for quite a while now and still feel like I’m discovering new things! I added a 256GB SD card to mine, a nice Genesis-themed background, and the menu music from the MegaDrive Mini.

The PS1 core is really impressive. Playing note-perfect Silent Hill has been a real highlight. But my favourite part of the MiSTer is that I can satisfy my picky needs for scanlines, etc. on a console-by-console basis. Finally, everything looks “correct”!

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I want one so bad. The DE10 seems to be out of stock everywhere :frowning:

Directly from Terasic is the fastest, but also a little more expensive with ~$40 for shipping. I preordered from digi-key on July 1 and it just shipped a couple days ago. Digi-key doesn’t charge you until they ship which is nice.

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I’m starting to feel the itch to get into lightgun games on MiSTer. I know I need SNAC and a CRT, but I’ve never looked much further into it than that. Is there a one-size-fits-all lightgun I can seek out, or will I need different lightguns for PSX and Genesis?

I noticed that the Mister’s component output is a bit dimmer than some of my other consoles. I’m not sure if it’s an issue with the Mister, the analog I/O board, or the VGA - Component cable I use (Monoprice). here’s an example photo I tried to take, the difference is actually quite a bit more pronounced in real life

Mister SNES core:

Wii SNES Emulator - Component:

Anybody else notice something similar? Easiest place to start checking would be the cable, but I’m not sure which cable to get

This is mentioned in @VGEsoterica videos a lot, and something I noticed too compared to a Genesis, SNES, and Wii. The MiSTer just seems to output a darker image than most consoles. Easy to correct of course but still something to know about.

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ah okay, thanks for the info! does this also apply to direct video/HDMI as well?

I’ll just turn up the contrast and brightness a bit on my TV. hoped I wouldn’t need to do that, but it seems it can’t be helped

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I don’t use Direct Video but I’d be curious to know. Normal HDMI/VGA output doesn’t seem to.

Some solutions advertise better analog video brightness, like the Ironclad. This makes me think it’s a DAC/IO board thing. I’ve also read that component reduces color bit depth of the IO board from 8-bit to 6-bit per color, but no confirmation on that since I just saw it in a forum post. I’ve never noticed much difference between MiSTer component and SNES/Wii/PS1 RGB aside from brightness.

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now that you mention it, I did initially use HDMI and I didn’t notice any brightness issues, though I didn’t have a direct comparison at the time

now that I have the analog I/O board VGA seems a tad dark but I can do a direct comparison on that today to be sure. I like the VGA scandoubling, the scanlines look more authentic, but I’ll take a brighter image if that were the case. also I can play around with resolutions

I just did a direct comparison as I played some PS1 games. The difference is there for sure, but if you add modest scanlines to the HDMI it looks pretty even.

Without scanlines with some AO486 and Amiga games I tried looks wonderfully bright on the HDMI output.

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did she testing on my VGA monitor and I agree, it is wonderfully bright and vibrant. I used 640x480 just to get a similar comparison, but it was hard as I have some sync issues at that resolution for sure reason

actually initially I was surprised that VGA looked about as bright, but the colours looked a lot warmer. here’s some examples:

HDMI:

VGA:

HDMI:

VGA:

it’s only after I saw Castlevania 3 where I noticed it was more than just warmer colors, it looked like a heavy green push:

HDMI:

VGA:

flipping the SOG switch on the I/O board brought the colors much more in line with the HDMI output, but as with the component, it seemed a lot dimmer, though I haven’t tested much of it beyond the cursory glance after the switch

I think I’ll switch to HDMI output for my VGA monitor, as it’s a lot less bright than the consumer TV, and I don’t have much left in the way of contrast or brightness to crank up as it is. plus I’ll have more granular control over things like scaling and resolution (especially for handhelds) so hopefully I can find a sweet spot

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found a happy medium. HDMI out, monitors native resolution 1024x768. vibrant colours, bright screen and scanlines look reasonably good. plus I can play handheld games in full screen

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